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Has anyone else had a problem with the Ver1_05 not appearing correctly using Adobe Acrobat (Pro DC)? I also tried using iOS Acrobat and had the same issue. The first 2 pages appear fine, but then everything after that is a blank white page. I'm able to open it fine using Apple's Preview, and Apple's Books app. I'm not sure if I need to re-download or change a setting in Acrobat? Thanks.
edit: the error I get is a very unhelpful, "There was a problem reading this document (14)." A google search tells me it means the file is corrupt?

That latest PDF is a sort of preview version.  I'll fix that error when I put the official second printing out.  

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Hello! Like others, just wondering when print copies will start shipping. I put the address in both here on itch.io and also via email but have received no notifications. It's a gift for a friend and I can't wait for them to get it.

Thanks!

I just sent out an email on this.  Spoiler:  Blackbox just made vague noises and said things are taking longer than they expected.  They didn't hazard a guess.  I doubt that it'll ship this week or next.

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Hello,

I apologize in advance, you're probably pretty busy, but if you've got a moment I was wondering if I could get some clarification?

I ordered a physical copy on July 03 (while they were still available), and waited until after the 13th to check if it was arriving. I saw you had mentioned something about warehouse delays, but when I checked my purchase page on the 15th or 16th it said my delivery has been fulfilled. I have not received a copy yet, however. Is the purchase being marked as fulfilled just acknowledgement that my delivery will be forthcoming when available, or was it actually shipped out and I just never received the copy?

Thank you.

Mine order is also marked as fulfilled. I got an email from Tim on the 25th though, letting me know that the warehouse was still in the middle of switching locations. The warehouse/shipping company is called 'Blackbox', so you could try search your spam folder for an email from them. I haven't gotten one yet though, so I assume they are still in the process of moving house. 

I can't say for certain but I have a feeling that our orders being marked as 'Fulfilled' is an acknowledgement that the delivery will occur as soon as the warehouse people get their stuff figured out. Like everyone else though, I can't even begin to guess when that will be.

Hope this helps.

So:  The only way I can interact with an itch customer file is to mark it fulfilled.  The only intelligible way to work with their system (for me) was to mark customers fulfilled when I sent their addresses to the shipper.   It's not exactly they way that 'fulfilled' is supposed to be used but it works fine up to the point that the shipper delays shipments for 1+ months.  Then things are unclear.

If you ordered after June 26 or so, then you are in the 'waiting for the warehouse to ship' group.  And that sucks and I'm sorry.

Are you getting mailchimp emails from me?

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I'm not, but I did order on July 3rd, so I'm certain it's the warehouse thing you've stated. I was mostly just curious if Fulfilled meant sent out or not, and you've clarified for me! Thank you. Waiting a little longer won't kill me for a great game.

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So, any news when the shipping will start and how long it'll take?

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I just sent out an email.  Summary:  Warehouse doesn't know.  I bet things won't ship this week or next.

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Hi folks!  I'm feeling unwell and can't do this justice but:  TYOV just won three ENnie awards!  And it's thanks to all of you.


Thank you.


I am now going to bed.

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Just saw your wins on the Ennies and thanks for thanking archivists! We appreciate it. Can't wait to get my hands on the second printing.

I can't either!

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I don't think that'll help, honestly.  

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I see that the PDF is double-page spreads. Would it be possible to please get a single-page version? Many thanks.

Yes, that should be out in a couple of weeks.  Please nudge me if it isn't.  

Fantastic. Thanks.

Hi Tim, Is there a way to reach you about using some of this text for a creative writing class I teach? I recently purchased the hardback/pdf and am interested in having high school students work through some of these in a writing journal throughout the semester, but I don’t want to violate your preferences.  Thanks! Happy to email if you want to talk a bit, and if it’s just a no go you can let me know that too.

dearleadergame@gmail.com


I might have neat news for you!

is there a way to tell If my order is for the 2nd printing or was from the stock you already had...? Not a big deal if I have to wait.

If you ordered through itch then it's first printing, if you pre-ordered through backerkit then it'll be second printing in October.  Pre-orderererers will have the chance to switch to first printing orders after blackbox fulfills the backed up orders and I'm sure how much stock I have left.

Also, aww, I saw the second printing "may have one less ribbon"? I hope it turns out to still have both. I personally use both ribbons in every session - one for my prompt page, and one for the number tables in the back, because I absolutely adore the number tables and use them for every roll.

Second printings has all the ribbons!  It is decided!

I updated the pre-order item on backerkit, thank you!

Thank you! :)

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Shipping update:  The warehouse told me things were going to ship this week.  It's Thursday and they haven't shipped yet so I'm crossing my fingers that they don't mess this up.  

I'll send out an 'email blast' through MailChimp if there is a further delay.

It's almost noon on Friday and they haven't shipped.  Holy shit.

The fulfillment/warehouse folks responded to my email today saying that the warehouse transfer has taken longer than they thought and that they can't tell me when things will ship.  They can't provide a specific date but said they'll try to move things along quickly.  

I'm super bummed about this and will send out an 'email blast' through MailChimp about it.  

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Ridiculous customer service on their part. I hope they are able to make it right with you somehow. Expedited shipping at their cost to everyone that's been waiting for nearly a month would be a nice demand. ;)

Damn, sorry to hear about this Tim. I'm sure it is just as frustrating for you as it is for folks waiting. Fortunately I'm patient and not in too big of a hurry to get my copy. Enjoying the PDF version in the meantime. Just as long as it shows up in the next month before I change addresses ;)

This shipping company/warehouse is pretty inept.

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Agreed. It is rational to claim "COVID" for one or two weeks delay. But this amount of delay is pretty much unacceptable. At this point it sounds like they may just be making excuses to buy more time.

Hi Tim, the POD version is no longer available, have you disabled it or is it a problem of DriveThru?

Thanks

What!  Hang on.

Holy shit, that's the second time this has happened.  Thank you for the heads up, it is fixed.  I am going to write an email to see if I can get it fixed properly, though.

The POD version is now officially offline while a printing thing gets resolved.  

No worries! Hope that they fix the issue soon

<high five>

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Hey Tim,

I'm sorry to bother, but I ordered the first edition a while ago, a bit before the announcement that there were warehouse issues, and I still haven't received a confirmation e-mail from them even though we're well into the week of the 13th.

What I'm trying to say is that I'm pretty anxious as to the state of my order, do you have any details? Should I just wait more?

Things are shipping this coming week, according to the warehouse.  Yours is in the outgoing list.  Check your junk email for anything from dearleadergame@gmail.com   


Hi Tim,

I'm looking to get the physical copy, but they're all sold out. Just curious when there may be more, if there will be?

Thanks so much, excited to play!

I am going to put more up for sale at the end of next week.  Check back on Friday.  

Or, heck, email me at dearleadergame@gmail.com and we'll make sure you get one a little sooner.

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Hi folks!  The warehouse folks told me the earliest they'd be shipping would be July 13th and (as of last week) things should be shipped by the 21st at latest.  I gave them a nudge today about when it'd go out but didn't hear back yet.  I'll send out a group email when I know more.

Have you heard anything more from the warehouse please? One of the copies i ordered is meant to be a birthday gift and i'm worried it won't arrive on time.

Things are shipping this coming week.  I apologize for missing that birthday.  Yesterday I called a local store to see if I could buy one to rush to you but they were sold out.

That's alright, the birthday is on the 31st. As long as it arrives by then it'll be all good. Do you happen to have any idea how soon it might reach Romania once it's shipped please?

The two recent orders I had for Poland were delivered in seven and eight days.  That's the best estimate I have.

Hey! I’m not sure how to go about getting a tracking number for my physical copy.  Do we contact you directly or is there a contact email for black box to follow up? 

Blackbox hasn't shipped yet, though they will any day.  When they do you'll get a note from them.

Loving playing this - really fun!

Question:  as you receive prompts, should the experiences be RP'ed as if they happened in chronological order - a) within each memory and b) regardless of memory?  

i've played it once where I added experiences to each separate memory in a chronological order within those individual memories.  However, as a whole, each prompt did not result in an experience that was chronologically following the prompt that preceded it.   This worked out ok, but I found it hard to tell the actual story flow.

The second time, I forced myself to create the experiences in chronological order, regardless whether I added them to the same memory i'd used for the previous experience, creating an absolute chronology that was created exactly how I received each prompt.  It makes "forgetting" more of a patchwork of things - there were gaps in my vampires memory that came in between other experiences.

I know the answer is that probably both are OK and that its just preference.  I'm still curious what the original intent was and how others have been playing.

I never even thought of that 1st option, and I'm not sure I understand how that would work! So you get a prompt, decide which memory to add it to, and that decides roughly the time period it occurred in? Sounds interesting.

ya - that’s kinda how i was doing it...

But even when i did play it the second way, i’m still unsure...

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When I play it I'll add something to Memory A, then something to B, then something to A again.  The Memories will have a consistent thread but there will be big jumps.  If the Stork Lord was dead but I'm wanting to put something else in that Memory that's all about him,  I need to somehow relate it back in some sense.  It becomes a challenging stricture to the writing. 

Also it doesn't break if you don't do it.  

Hmmm...  OK.  Interesting...  

So the prompts do happen chronologically, and i guess that, with in each memory, they are as well.  But the result is memories that overlap with each other and can cause gaps when forgotten.

so, it might look something like this:

M1 gets Experience 1 from Prompt 4
M1 gets Experience 2 from Prompt 7
M2 gets Experience 3 from Prompt 6
M1 gets Experience 4 from Prompt 10
M2 gets Experience 5 from Prompt 9
etc...

So everything happens chronologically based on the Experiences, but if my vampire forgets all of their 1st memory (M1, in the above), it will mean they loose some information that happened between Exp 3 and 5 in the timeline... Love it love it love it!

I know i'm probably being WAY too analytical in how the game is intended to be played.  But I love knowing the original intent, cause it helps me think around how things unfold narratively.  

Thanks again for such a great game!  I'm REALLY enjoying!


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You are 100% correct!  Things get -muddled- and it's delightful. 

I appreciate your checking in with me about my intent as a maker.  Not enough people do that in games.  I don't do it often enough!  It's easy to read a thing and write our own understanding on it and not even realize it is happening and it can poison a game experience if we aren't careful.  

When do you know if the 2nd printing will have EU warehousing? Wondering which version I should get. 

I'm almost positive that the pre-order shipment of the 2nd printing will not benefit from EU warehousing.  It'll all rush out Fedex.  

I do hope to figure out how to put stuff on a boat for the EU but, holy shit, that stuff is hard to figure out.  

Thanks for replying. Might get the drivethru version, even though it is not so fancy.

I can only imagine how hard it must be to figure out. 

Looking forward to playing it.

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Hi Tim! Your game is literally the best RPG out there imo, and I've played a lot of them. I recommend it whenever possible.

One thing - my copy has the gold leaf printed significantly off, clipping over the faux-labels on their tops and not starting for a while after their bottoms. Is there something I can do to rectify this at all? It's fine if it's not within your power, since there's a print company between you and all that. I'm happy to have the book at all, but I figured I'd ask.

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Oh fuck, that one is WAY off.  Congratulations on the mis-printiest one of the bunch.  Many of the books have an amount of variance with the gold treatment but you won the prize.  

I'm going to ask you to email me about this in October after the second printing is out.  Is that cool?  

Yeah, that'll work! Thanks!

It's great to see the kindness and generosity to offer community copies to people on the honour system. Makes me even happier to support this body of work and the BG community. #muchlove

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The community copies system is awesome!  And it works because other folks buy 'em!

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What sort of errata was I the first edition? IF I consider getting the first Ed from elsewhere, will I be getting a less good version than backing the second ed? Thanks!

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I asked via Twitter https://twitter.com/TimHutchingsFTW/status/1281411233137061888?s=19

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Hi, will the second printing of the book be shipped from the US? Also, is the EU pod version on DriveThru already sold out...? Sorry if you already answered these questions, I read the whole page + comments but I couldn't find any info

The DTRPG thing is fixed.  Somehow the POD option was turned off.  

The 2nd printing ships from the USA.  My fulfillment warehouse is shifting ownership and I'm hoping that they'll be able to offer overseas warehousing.  

Is there a different way to  get a physical copy?

For Germany the shipping cost is 37€. That almost doubles the price of the book.

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https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/306279/Thousand-Year-Old-Vampire has POD versions that are much cheaper.  Shipping to Germany is $5USD I think.

The shipping to the EU for the offset fancy book is outrageous and I'm sorry.  If you can catch me when things are slower I can send a book via the regular post and it's about $10usd cheaper.  

I hope that the second edition gets an EU warehouse to ship from, which would cut down cost.

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I'll send out an email.

Hi Tim!
Do you have any more information on The Complete The Oracle, The Habititition of the Stone Giant Lord, and Everything is Dolphins? I'd love to know about the other three books in your combo pack!
Best,

MAG

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/timh/the-complete-the-oracleadandd-fanzine-...

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/timh/everything-is-dolphins-an-rpg-and-art-...

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/timh/the-habitition-of-the-stone-giant-lord...

Thanks Tim! Your other projects look great, but I decided to order a hardcover copy on its own. Best of luck with the rest of the stock!

MAG

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Just ordered this as a present, (and one for myself).  Looks amazing, can’t wait to get my hands on it.

Hello timhutchings, just to confirm, if i paid for the physical book, put in $120 ($80 + $40) and entered a European address in the info, you'll automatically send 2 physical copies once the warehouse issues clear up?

Yes.

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I am so excited to get my copy of this. Ha I messed up when entering my address so it appears I am in the queue! The 13th is my birthday too so it will be my self present!

For those confused - when you purchase the physical copy the receipt that is emailed to you will have a link to your digital PDF - Go to your digital Item and you will see the box you selected with the same info as above. At the bottom you will see a link to enter your address info. Its easy to miss this site caters more to the digital purchases.  

Oh, that's helpful!  It didn't look like that back when I figured this out.

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Hi! I bought the physical copy about a week ago, and I still haven’t received a shipping confirmation. Can you please verify that my book is coming? 

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Same here. How can I get a confirmation? Thanks!

If you ordered/updated your address after June 25 then you are most likely caught in the warehouse delay and won't see shipping info until after July 13.  

Once we're sold out, prob tomorrow, I'll send out a bulk email to anyone who doesn't have their address entered properly.  

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Can't wait to get my physical copy, but in the mean time I've been enjoying myself using the PDF.

I did have a question though:
If diaries are Resources (which means they can be lost) and there are effects that let you recover resources, can you recover a diary? If so, what happens if you have an active diary at the time? Or can you just not make that choice? I'm guessing that you just can't, but I'd appreciate some insight into the intent.

Also, thank you for making me find a way to murder someone via meditation. You know how it goes; you space out for a hundred years, everyone you know dies, and suddenly you have that unquenchable hunger and your only skills are Fishing, Meditating, and Law.

I was wondering this, too.  I also had a question about prompt 17: "Check a violent Skill or appropriate Resource" - what does it mean to "check a resource"? Strike it out?

I think that was supposed to be "check a skill" or "lose a resource."

I did find a similar typo on #34: "Lose a precious Memory or a destroy Resource." ("Destroy" and "a" should be in the other order). I'd also suggest altering the wording so that "precious" applies to the resource as well.

Thank you for error-catching!  I appreciate it!

I think it's very reasonable to have two Diaries at once under those conditions. 

Being forced to use Skills and Resources in surprising or unwanted ways is one of my secret delights in this game.  

Thanks! It never ended up being a problem I had to deal with (never lost the only diary I made) but it was niggling in the back of my mind as a what-if.

There's a lot of fine detail in this that I absolutely love (just discovered that the back cover--at least in the PDF--has been torn off revealing page 153).

My first run ended earlier today (er, yesterday, its after midnight) and my character's final regret was that he didn't have the books he owned since childhood to keep him company for the interminable eons (prompt 65 saw to that, you have no idea how painful that was). On the flip side, prompt 52 also ended up being *absolutely perfect* for him as well as he saw himself as a guardian of nature.

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I just bought the physical deluxe copy. I paid $ 50 and thought that the shipping cost (Netherlands) would be automaticaly recalculated. Instead I was notified that I "tipped" you for $ 40 ?! Please let me know how to make up for the shipping cost and confirm that I will actually receive the physical copy (<>POD-version). Thanks!

So:  When you buy on itch anything above the minimum is considered a tip.  Your minimum should've been 50 but I'm not always sure what things look like from the buyer side.  

Itch can't do shipping calculations so you need to add the shipping in.  It's like it's 00s and we're buying from a comic shop's homemade website.  

I'll send you an email with the shipping total and payment method.

Sorry!

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Hi Tim, Thanks for your reply! No problem, I understand. When I get your email I'll make the additional payment for the shipping. The PDF looks great; the physical copy must be awesome!

I've bought it just now  and haven't received any confirmation email. I paid $80 to get the US version to EU. When should I get any notification and how long until I get the book?

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There is a warehouse delay until after July 13th.  I'll be sending out another email about it soon.

Couldn't follow your instructions here, unfortunately. Had to reply to your e-mail. Sorry.

Hi, just wanted to confirm that my order was received too.

Cheers!

There is a warehouse delay until after July 13th.  I'll be sending out another email about it soon.

If there is a problem with your order I'll be emailing you from dearleadergame@gmail.com.

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I recently bought a physical copy of the game, but I understand you are facing some warehousing issues...Itch.io's interface is a bit strange, so I just wanted to confirm my address information was received. 

Thanks in advance!

There is a warehouse delay until after July 13th.  I'll be sending out another email about it soon.

If there is a problem with your order I'll be emailing you from dearleadergame@gmail.com.

Hello, I ordered a physical copy last week but have not received a confirmation email. I just wanted to confirm that my order and info was received. 
Thanks!

There is a warehouse delay until after July 13th.  I'll be sending out another email about it soon.

If there is a problem with your order I'll be emailing you from dearleadergame@gmail.com.

Hi Tim: Sorry to bother, as I am sure there is a lot going on right now - I also purchased a physical copy, but was unable to enter a shipping address. I tried clicking on the link you provided in the comment below to twallach but it just brings me back to this same page, and I can't seem to find a place to enter my address info. Any further clarification you can provide would be appreciated. Thank you. 

Follow up: I had sent it as a gift, and I managed to update the address by having the recipient email me their confirmation email for the pdf. Sorry for the confusion.

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